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		<title>Fox takes on Google</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rupert Murdoch is pointing a gun to Google&#8217;s head, and Microsoft is helping him pull back the trigger. For the past few weeks, Murdoch and his officers at News Corp. have been very vocal about their distaste for Google and their desire to lead other media companies in a boycott of sorts. Murdoch keeps threatening [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rupert Murdoch is <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/13/murdoch-google-bing-mexicanstandoff/">pointing a gun to Google&rsquo;s head</a>, and Microsoft is helping him pull back the trigger. For the past few weeks, Murdoch and his officers at News Corp. have been very vocal about their distaste for Google and their desire to <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/13/news-corp-google-media-industry-demise/">lead other media companies in a boycott</a> of sorts.</p>
<p>Murdoch keeps threatening to stop letting Google index the <em>WSJ.com</em> and his other media sites, and wants other news sites to join him in this self-imposed silence. The folks at Microsoft&rsquo;s Bing think this is a great idea. Not only that, but <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a243c8b2-d79b-11de-b578-00144feabdc0.html">the <em>FT</em><img id="snap_com_shot_link_icon" class="snap_preview_icon" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 0pt ! important; padding: 1px 0pt 0pt; max-height: 2000px; max-width: 2000px; min-width: 0px; min-height: 0px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: &quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; float: none; position: static; left: auto; top: auto; line-height: normal; background-image: url(http://i.ixnp.com/images/v6.16/theme/silver/palette.gif); background-color: transparent; visibility: visible; width: 14px; height: 12px; background-position: -1128px 0pt; background-repeat: no-repeat; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: top; display: inline;" src="http://i.ixnp.com/images/v6.16/t.gif" alt="" /></a> reports that Microsoft is in fact in discussions with News Corp. and other publishers about the possibility of paying them to remove their sites from Google&rsquo;s search index. This report comes on the heels of a <a href="http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/13/badda-bing-microsoft-woos-newspapers-by-funding-their-stick-to-beat-google/">meeting in Europe<img id="snap_com_shot_link_icon" class="snap_preview_icon" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 0pt ! important; padding: 1px 0pt 0pt; max-height: 2000px; max-width: 2000px; min-width: 0px; min-height: 0px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: &quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; float: none; position: static; left: auto; top: auto; line-height: normal; background-image: url(http://i.ixnp.com/images/v6.16/theme/silver/palette.gif); background-color: transparent; visibility: visible; width: 14px; height: 12px; background-position: -1128px 0pt; background-repeat: no-repeat; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: top; display: inline;" src="http://i.ixnp.com/images/v6.16/t.gif" alt="" /></a> where Bing dangled the prospect of premium spots in search results to publishers and outright money for search R&amp;D.</p>
<p>Microsoft is not afraid to buy search market share, which is what it&rsquo;s doing with the <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/29/microsoft-yahoo-search-deal-the-most-important-facts-and-some-opinion/">Yahoo search deal</a> and even its <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/27/microsoft-ends-bing-promotion-early-after-hitting-cashback-limit/">Cashback program</a>.  But with these latest talks, it is literally trying to buy the news, or at least exclusive access to the news.</p>
<p>Bing can&rsquo;t buy all the news, it can only buy certain brands. If Bing can somehow become the only place you can find news results and working links to the <em>Wall Street Journal</em> and other top papers such as the <em>New York Times</em>, the <em>Washington Post</em>, and the <em>LA Times</em>, for instance, that would be a big reason to switch for a lot of folks. But it&rsquo;s not clear how much Bing would have to pay the news companies of the world for them to give up all the traffic Google sends them in return for a fraction of that traffic and some cash.</p>
<p>Even Google couldn&rsquo;t afford to strike such deals.  <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/17/murdoch-tablets-newspapers/">Says Murdoch</a>, of Google, &ldquo;If they were to pay everybody for everything they took from every newspaper in the world, and every magazine, they wouldn&rsquo;t have any profits left.&rdquo;</p>
<p>In order to actually make a dent in Google&rsquo;s market share, Bing would have to pay such exorbitant sums to so many different news companies that it would be difficult to recoup its investment. Bing certainly get some marketing buzz out of any such move, but that&rsquo;s about it.</p>
<p>The big problem with a search engine trying to buy market share by buying parts of the news is that information spreads so quickly these days, exclusives last about 30 seconds. That information will end up on a site that is indexed by Google. Or the same news will be broken by someone else on the Web before the WSJ.com even gets to it.</p>
<p>Exclusive indexing goes against the Web&rsquo;s inherent openness. Companies that try to curtail that openness don&rsquo;t last long on the Web.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo Gives In to Microsoft, Gives Up on Search</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a long-awaited pairing aimed at taking on Google, Yahoo will handle ad sales while Microsoft gets the real prize: data on who&#8217;s doing what online By Peter Burrows and Daniel Saltman Ever since Microsoft (MSFT) made its $45 billion bid for Yahoo (YHOO) in early 2008, it was clear the software giant was serious [...]]]></description>
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<h2>In a long-awaited pairing aimed at taking on Google, Yahoo will handle ad sales  while Microsoft gets the real prize: data on who&#8217;s doing what online <!--/DECK--></h2>
<p class="byline">By <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/">Peter Burrows</a> and <a href="http://letsmakerobots.com/user/2207">Daniel Saltman</a></p>
<p>Ever since Microsoft (<a href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?symbol=MSFT">MSFT</a>)  made its $45 billion bid for Yahoo (<a href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?symbol=YHOO">YHOO</a>)  in early 2008, it was clear the software giant was serious about taking on  arch-rival Google (<a href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?symbol=GOOG">GOOG</a>)  in the lucrative Internet search business. And now, after years of talks with  Yahoo, it seems Microsoft has achieved its goal. In a 10-year deal announced in  the early hours of July 29, Microsoft became the clear No. 2 in a market long  dominated by arch-rival Google.</p>
<p>In a deal that presages its departure from a market it helped pioneer, Yahoo  will scrap its own efforts to best Google in search and instead rely on  Microsoft&#8217;s recently debuted Bing search engine. Ads placed next to those search  results would be served up not by Yahoo&#8217;s ad platform, dubbed Panama, but by a  Microsoft technology called AdCenter. Yahoo CEO <a href="http://investing.businessweek.com/businessweek/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=169928&amp;symbol=YHOO"> Carol Bartz</a> &#8220;is essentially giving up on search,&#8221; says Danny Sullivan,  editor of Search Engine Land.</p>
<p>Yahoo salespeople will continue to sell search ads that appear on both Yahoo  sites and on Bing, and Microsoft agreed to let Yahoo keep 88% of the revenue on  ads that appear on Yahoo sites. But Microsoft will nevertheless reap a reward  that&#8217;s more valuable in the long run. The data on computer users&#8217; online search  and buying habits would ultimately reside on Microsoft&#8217;s computers, thereby  improving its ability to automatically serve up the most relevant ads. &#8220;If  Microsoft is running the underlying ad technology, it doesn&#8217;t matter who is  selling the ads,&#8221; Sullivan says. &#8220;In the end, Microsoft will hold all the  cards.&#8221;</p>
<p>He adds that most advertisers place ads by filling out online forms, with no  involvement from salespeople. Maintaining control of sales makes the deal &#8220;sound  rosier for Yahoo than it really is, because in the end Yahoo won&#8217;t have the  technology needed to compete.&#8221;</p>
<h3>Insurance for Microsoft and Bing</h3>
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<p>Microsoft wins in other ways. The deal gives a big boost to Bing. The  combined search market share of Yahoo and Microsoft would approach 30%. That&#8217;s  still far below Google&#8217;s 65%, but analysts say it may provide enough of a  critical mass at least to stave off further Google advances and help the  enlarged search engine gain some ground. At a minimum, the deal doubles as a  kind of insurance policy for Microsoft, in case all</p>
<p>of the positive buzz about  the Bing search engine doesn&#8217;t translate into actual market share. By adding  Yahoo&#8217;s 20% market share, Bing assures its place as the only search engine  provider other than Google with size that really matters.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.populicio.us/"><img class="size-full wp-image-51 alignleft" title="166871-microsoft-bing_180" src="http://www.populicio.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/166871-microsoft-bing_180.jpg" alt="166871-microsoft-bing_180" width="180" height="84" /></a>So what&#8217;s in it for Bartz? For starters, Yahoo will slice $200 million in  technology development costs, while continuing to bring in or even grow its  search ad revenue. That&#8217;s because its salespeople will sell not only ads running  on Yahoo sites, but also on Bing. Once it&#8217;s fully implemented, about two years  after regulators sign off, the deal is expected to add an annual $500 million in  operating income for Yahoo. The recently appointed CEO also buys time to hone  Yahoo&#8217;s strategy and improve other moneymakers, such as placing banner-style  display ads that appear on Yahoo&#8217;s highly trafficked portal and e-mail pages.  And by continuing to sell search ads, she maintains relationships with key  advertisers rather than let Microsoft walk away with them. &#8220;Yahoo doesn&#8217;t want  to look like they&#8217;ve sold off their crown jewel for short-term gain,&#8221; Sullivan  says. &#8220;This creates the illusion that they have more control of the situation  than they probably do.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an illusion that will likely work with Yahoo&#8217;s long-suffering  shareholders. Indeed, the deal will probably be welcomed by investors in both  companies, since it lets each play to its respective strengths. Yahoo is most  successful as a media company—and that includes selling advertising.</p>
<p>Microsoft, on the other hand, is a technology powerhouse, with vast software  development capabilities and the cash to build the billion-dollar data centers  needed to run search engines and ad platforms. The roles represent a stark  reversal from half a decade ago, when Microsoft used both Yahoo&#8217;s search  technology and its search-ad system. &#8220;It&#8217;s good for both of the companies,&#8221; says  Sandeep Aggarwal, an analyst with Collins Stewart (<a href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?symbol=CLST.L">CLST.L</a>).</p>
<h3>An Antitrust O.K. Is Needed</h3>
<p>The arrangement will also have to get a nod from antitrust officials. It  probably will, given both companies&#8217; relatively small market share next to  Google&#8217;s, and advertisers generally are likely to be in favor of the deal since  it bolsters a competitor to the market leader. But Google no doubt will raise  objections, which could at least slow down the approval of the deal.</p>
<p>Moreover, the complexity of the deal means it will take the two companies  longer to integrate operations than if Yahoo simply outsourced search and search  ads to Microsoft, as Microsoft originally proposed. &#8220;It&#8217;s certainly a deal with  a bunch of moving pieces,&#8221; says Tim Cadogan, CEO of the online ad technology and  services firm <a href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?capId=34953739"> OpenX</a> and a former Yahoo ad sales and search executive.</p>
<p>But if and when those pieces fall into place, it will become abundantly clear  which party gained the upper hand in the arrangement, and which one has a  fighting chance against Google.</p>
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